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hebbar7709-04 06:22 PMdealsnet,

Don�t assume that things will work like they work in YSR regime.

If you think that, the discussion does not make any sense to you then keep away. You are assuming that IMV has compromised security. FYI, this is not a YSR forum, nor it his jagir to do a security compromise.

True facts: I am with you on your thoughts. I feel the same for OUR country.



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conchshell09-23 08:27 AMNixtor, this idea is worth trying. If people who are buyinh house can be exempted from the VB quota, this will free up extra visas and will help those people who will not buy a house.



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nfinity07-04 08:51 AMDugg the links, posted to the board. What other action items do we have?



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BPforGC08-11 01:39 PMSir

I got I-140 approved based on EB2-NIW (filed in April 2007). No labor required.

I filed my 485 during July 2007 when everything became current.

When they get to my 485, are they going to process and approve if VISA number is available based on the filing date?
(or)
Then will keep it aside until EB2 for India becomes current based on my I-140 filing date (which is April 2007)? Currently the date for India is June 2006.

So, approving 485 is based on order of filing and VISA number availability or based on priority date at the time of 485 reviewing?

In other words, do USCIS assign VISA numbers only for the petitions whose priority date is current at the very moment when the IO looks into the application i.e., is it prevented by Law to assign VISA numbers to petitions whose priority dates are not current at the time of assigning?

Thank you very much.

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nogreencard4ever09-04 09:09 PMhey stop the nonsense. u r trying to argue with everyone. u r playing with people emotions.
why don't u just stop the arguments over here. just leave the dead person in peace.
if u don't like him just go and talk with someone else who also doesn't like him in ur family or with ur friends. i think u r spending too much time bashing YSR and his son.
r u considering urself as a "SAINT" , if u r saint, u have right to talk about other persons.
otherwise u should shut ur mouth. Its good for u and ur family. u used the word "KUKKA CHAVU" that's not at all accepted. i think u should keep ur tongue when u r using those words.



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venetian05-12 04:04 AMCome on guys

Why there is so much name calling

I read the entire forum postings to get a perspective. I might quote from most of the participants.

Honestly speaking most of us are members of IV because we want to fix the problem with employment based legal immigration system. We do this because we want to get GC to settle down in life, or to get the deserving promotion or start the new venture we were dreaming about - all in the US. Many of us may eventually apply for the US citizenship.

In some of the forums, members talk of being born in India or China as sin, they get so desperate during the visa bulletin announcements, depressed when they see the PD moving backwards, envy non India & China EB2 applicants, heated EB3 vs EB2 debate, heated labor substitution debate etc etc etc. Personally I know many who curse themselves for being born in India, I’m sure they do not literally mean but it is out of frustration of being in this country for many years and not able to do what they wish in career or in life because of the GC issue, that being said,

Nandakumar’s only grievance is that present Govt of India does not help or care for the suffering of Sri Lankan Tamils, I cannot speak for him but I think because of his intense support for the cause of SL tamils, he might have over stated his displeasure towards India but he never once mentioned Tamil Nadu or its secession or even splitting Sri Lanka , or fights between some of the states in India, or anything related to regionalism and did not even mention or support LTTE in his original postings but only to respond to other members postings.

As I said earlier, all most all of the IV members want to get GC and may want to become US citizen, I’m not sure whether the members who had responded to Nandakumar’s postings have the intentions of permanently settling down in the US. If they do, I don’t see any difference between end objective of either of them, one may present extreme view of protest and reason that for getting US citizenship and other might reason that there is better opportunity in the US than India to get US citizenship, bottom line is both want to leave India and become a citizen of another country, in this case US and show allegiance to the US and its constitution, there after both needs to get Indian visa to visit India, what an irony.

We are a educated lot, I think members should show restraint and stop this name calling business, if they do not agree on an issue, they should agree to disagree but should not disgrace a person and as another member did, do not bring parents into the discussion, just because the other party has opposite view.

Recent past USCIS has raided many Indian owned consulting companies for visa and immigration fraud, earlier too few consulting company bosses were arrested for labor substitution fraud etc, this shows how desperate are people to get GC, why someone has to involve in such frauds to be in the US permanently, what India or their home country has done to them, to leave their home country for US, there are many whose business is to bad mouth India with others. What to call these people?

Another interesting aspect is, nandakumar speaks for himself but others speak for all the Indians, not sure who elected them to represent all the Indians and how do they know the views of all the Indians.

A honest question for the members who are bashing Nandakumar, you are all here in the IV forum for time pass or with the intention of helping IV to work towards overhauling employment based legal immigration process and eventually to get GC and the US citizenship?

PS: I do support the genuine aspirations of the SL Tamils and NOT any organization designated as terrorist organization by some countries including the US and India

Nandakumar,

It is pretty much proven that in your mental territory you have already ditched India and it is the USA which will take long to grant you a GC and then afterwards citizenship for which you almost represented your beggar like mentality. But that is not my concern and should not be. I have only one question to you and I hope youwould try to answer it with all possible honesty.

Q: What will be your view regarding USA's official policy to consider LTTE a terrorist organisation? ONce you will be come US citizen how will you align yourself with this policy?

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Rohan9907-26 02:46 PMI like this thread a lot. It is so relaxing, especially after reading "EB2-EB3 Predictions (Rather Calculations).. " this thread is so intense, and uses 100% of brain capacity


You seem to be enjoying this thread. This should be lighten up - 2 :)



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BharatPremi09-24 06:35 PMHow is assigning Visa number different from issuing Physical green card (they may be two step but once you get a visa number assigned you get physical green card in few days)

Can you prove that the concept is false, this is plain interpretation of visa bulletin notes and the law.

You also know what I am stating. You already have heard the word"Pre-adjudication" which means "To assign number" based on monthly bulletin based EB table dates and then put a file on shelf to eat dust till USCIS can "approve 485" /"Send Physical greencard" based on Prority date becomes active based on "country specific limit"

If assigning number is almost equivalent to granting visa in a few days then there should not be hundreds of applicants waiting in "pre-adjudication" queue. We all know that many people have been pre-adjudicated and now they are just waiting for their physical GCs.

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ebizash07-27 01:15 PMWhat has EB5 to do with amway?
Did I mention I'm making millions? Obviously on the way, but atleast I have something to fall back to if I loose my job. Do you?

Really... Millions... Have you checked the disclaimer in your lit pack under the 6-4-3 plan. A typical IBO makes $115 a month... Amway / BWW was forced to put this statement because of a lawsuit brought by Amway Diamonds and Double Diamonds... You can google...

I know you will now state that "you don't want to be an average... an average corporate employee makes $30K.. etc.. etc.." (Straight from Brad Duncan's CD) I have used it myself hundreds of times on the prospects...

"..veracity of this statement"
Sure pick up the phone and dial IRS, or call your accountant. Or your lawyer if you want to play it safe.
Other people doesn't do or will never do anything, other then wearing pantyhose and tip toeing through the tulips.

By the way did you call IRS to check.. or you are just believing what Kanti / Kumar / Raj or any other Diamond told you.. Oh another thing that they regularly mention in their trainings "IRS and USCIS don't share data so IRS won't know if you are on H1 or not"... USCIS can ask for your Tax returns before granting Green Card...

May be you have not received 1099 from Amway yet but the 1099 income on 1040 goes under a separate head "Self Employment"...

I know you will respond with some nasty stuff but I urge you to take the emotional hat off and think rationally (which I know is very hard as I had faced the same things) about the direction that Amway is taking... especially in Indian community... Do you see many Indian faces these days in the Amway's Inspire magazine or new Rubys, Emeralds, or Diamonds...

This is a good way to make some residual income (I still get monthly check 4 years after stopping to build it) but millions??? Not many EDCs and Diamonds make that money if you exclude the money from CDs, Books, CommuniKate etc..

Good luck!



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acecupid06-28 07:08 PMI have never been so stressed during this whole GC process ! :eek: I hope dates stay current for entire month of July. God bless all.

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EB-VoiceImmigration01-15 03:18 AMi will certainly comment on this gcperm issue. I mean who is this guy ?? Has he messed up you peoples mind so bad that you keep seeing him everywhere. I mean what has he said that was so bad that you guys start frothing at you mouth and behaving like this.
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sanju09-23 12:23 PMHas anybody really tried to get a mortgage recently? I have been denied by 8 lenders so far simply because I don't have a green card. Most lenders have tightened their underwriting guidelines. They will give mortgages only to U.S.Citizens or somebody who is a permanent resident aka having a green card. There are very very few lenders who will give mortgages to somebody on a visa and the rates may not be very favorable.

Regardless of your credit history/income/financial strength/savings there is almost no credit available in the market. Whether you want to buy a house or you want credit for a small business, there is no credit b'coz the lenders do not want to lend. That's the crisis. And if there is no credit, willing and able buyers, just like yourself will not be able to buy a house.

Administration wants $700 billion to buy bad mortgages (5% of the entire outstanding mortgages), which will inject confidence in the lending agencies, whereby easing the credit market, allowing everyone to get a loan and do whatever they have to do. But it doesn't end their, to recover from the economic slum, housing market must come back. And to bring the housing market, there needs to be more buyers in the market. As Alan Greenspan said few months back, speed-up GC, it will help bring buyers to the market, helping to bring back the housing.

After $700 Billion bail-out, the credit market will start to stabilize and it will be easier to get mortgage.

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unseenguy05-29 11:47 AMGuys : Once again I would suggest not to use tunnel vision. I personally know one case of EB1 in cognizant where one of my closest friends who never scored more than me in college exams and doesnt make more than I do got his GC in EB1.

Whatever Mr Oppenheim is saying is precise bullshit! Its all political. He is a bureaucrat who needs to defend the political policies. Where have we seen any transparency? Is there any transparency to the whole process?

If Mr Oppenheim has numbers so handy, can he explain why there are wild swings in visa bulletin and not a computerized FIFO policy. I can understand some 15-20% overlap for cases stuck in name check, unapprovable, etc etc. But every month/year visa bulletin swings like a pendulum which doesnt know which way is the right way.

If you complain about EB1, your friends will also lose GCs and no body will get GC. With that you are effectively saying, I dont get GC, even X should not get GC.

Although I think EB1 problem is largely restricted to Cognizant and needs to be addressed.



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chantu03-30 12:39 PMI am not saying MMS is the best....but better than others. Do you believe the so called Left the savior of our country. I am not bothering who is ruling or not. My only worry - what is done for our future. I strongly believe Left was the speed bump to the development of the country. Mr.Advani dont have anything but Ram Temple. I hardly see any value in that. He runs his politics based on religon and Ram temple. Let him put the plan and vision for out future, to build stronger India....I will be the first one to vote for him.


Left parties are the worst no doubt about that. Have you gone through the BJP manifesto, its IT vision document and also have you heard about Friends of BJP forums started by Indian businessmen. Yes, Advani runs his politics on religion and Ram temple. Do you think congress does not use religion? Do you hear the news that in Kerala congress has fielded candidates supported by church? Tomorrow if Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or Ramdev baba do the same thing with BJP, our media will shout from the roof top that this is communalism. Do you know Congress is allied with Muslim League in Kerala?

Snathan, all parties use the dirty tricks. Congress, BJP, Communists. But I will always support the party which builds Ram Temple rather than the party which destroys Ram Setu and even denies the existence of Ram.

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number3001-18 08:14 PM"just eating everyone's head"


To eat the some heads What if tomorrow same rules are applied for the Green card process?



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pmat05-10 08:10 AMI also don't believe in all the crap about cost of living in Canada. Toronto is the hub in Canada that has most of the jobs, but the cost of living is nowhere near to big US cities such as NY, San Francisco, etc. Based on my research, you can easily get a nice 4 bedroom SFH in Toronto suburbs for less than 300K.


Once again, eb2waiter, a baseless statement in "Canada is not a land of opportunity". No one owes you a living. You have to work for it. If you're such a good IT worker, become a consultant or open up your own business doing so. You can't expect someone to hand you a job. Like someone else stated, if your skills are in demand and a good communicator, you'll be fine.

And yes, I had a US job offer before arriving here.

And if you're already here as a student, well, I can't think of a better way to research the job market from within - job fairs, colleagues, etc.

Also, I don't see your point - if you're an immigrant student in Canada, there is no issue of foreign credentials. Any professional distinction earned in Canada lands you on the same footing as any citizen. So again, please stop spreading bad information.

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krishmunn06-15 06:37 PMH1b cap is 65k+ 20K for US master degree and remaining are exemptions. Total approimately 125K were issued on 2007.

You mean the cap-exempt made up 50K ? That appears too high. What is your source of info.
When you say total 125K were issued in 2007, did you exclude
the transfer (basically a new H1 not subject to cap) ?



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TeddyKoochu09-15 06:26 PMFriends what are the predictions for the coming bulletins (Maybe it�s too early). My 2 cents, Iam assuming quarterly spillover to happen in December, believe that all residual 2003 / 2004 folks will get approval in the next 2 months (I hope Iam not being too optimistic).

Nov VB - 01-MAR-2005
Dec VB - 01-JUN-2005

If we stay on stable ground i.e. the dates don't go back (Its better they move slowly then go back, seeing the dates go back is the most painful thing) then we can visualize the spillover (this is our only lifeline) better.



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mbartosik12-13 11:48 PMMark,

what say you?

In some states the courts are "Courts of equity and law" or is it "Courts of law and equity", in other words the court has a mandate to enforce fairness within the bounds of the law (NY State is one such state). This derives from English law. However, I do not believe that is the case for federal court.

If the courts were courts only of fairness, equity, what's right, etc., yes, indeed then I think that we would win. But the courts are courts of law. In our case the federal courts are courts of federal law. Congress writes those laws, and the courts are free to interpret those law but not change them. The courts can also throw out a law (this is often appealed to Supreme court). The Supreme court's job is to interpret the constitution, and to define how the lower courts must interpret the law, or to throw back the law to Congress.

We have next to no chance in lower courts.
Even if we appealed through courts up to Supreme court, and win we would loss because Congress would still be free to change the law to restrict in other ways, possibly with the same effect. In the mean time we would alienate those law makers on our side. Also USCIS would be free to stop ALL EB immigration, while the Congress decided how to rewrite the law.

In our case there is no interpretation other than the mess that we are in is the law. So the Supreme court would have to find that the law was against the constitution, which I highly doubt that it is.

Even if the supreme court found that the law was against the constitution, Congress could enact another similar law (akin to minimum sentence), that merely fitted within the framework of the constitution but achieved the same end result. A recent example of this was when the Supreme court found that Gitmo detainees must be given a right to review of their detention. The detainees were not immediately released because they were detained without review and against the constitution, no, Congress simply passed a law allowing review by military tribunal, that complied with the Constitution, and the detainees remained detained, with a totally meaningless review (not allowed to see evidence against them etc.).

Thus the branch of government that we need to convince is Congress (which by the way I think the Constitution or an amendment gives the right to government immigration).

I'm not saying do not fight, just fight smart.

To me fighting smart means going to the law makers, politely, and persuasively. It is not aggressive, it is not radical, but it is fighting wisely. So I don't think that we are backing down in the face of things that are wrong, I think that we are standing up, but intelligently, and fighting where we can win.

It is Congress that ultimately decides, the Supreme court can only say to them, "sorry, not in compliance, try again".



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Illegal action by USCIS causes $ 300 million loss in a single day to Legal & Skilled Immigrants ( Doctors, Engineers & Scientists ) not counting the hardships.


Skilled immigrants like Doctors, Engineers & Scientists have been paying all the taxes, following all the laws of the land and have been stuck in huge wait period of 3- 7 years to obtain green card.

On 13th of June 07, USCIS announced that all these people stuck for years can apply for the green card starting 2nd July 07. Everyone spent 2 weeks & $3000 per person at the minimum towards Attorney fees, medical tests & other unsalvageable direct costs prepared the application and started to send it to USCIS starting 2nd July 07.


In an unusual act of absolute disregard to the hardships and financial loss of these applicants, USCIS announced on the morning of 2nd July 07 that they will not accept any application for green card.

A COMPLETE REVERSAL OF THEIR EARLIER PLOICY ON THE VERY 1st DAY OF THE WINDOW ANNOUNCED BY THEMSELVES.


If nobody takes an action to support law abiding legal immigrants at this time, everyone talking about supporting the laws of the land on immigration issue needs to look into his / her own eyes in the mirror.


What we demand �. Talk to USCIS & encourage them to ATLEAST accept the applications sent by these innocent Skilled Immigrants so that they do not suffer at least the financial loss. USCIS can take their own time to award the green card at a later date


ARE WE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH ???????????????????



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Such companies sell pre-approved labor certificates for several thousand dollars (I have heard 20K) and use it as a means to lure employees. Their LCs have very early priority dates and H1Bs are tempted to apply for such jobs. By mentioning LCs in their ads, they are also calling H1Bs to apply rather than being an equal opportunity employer for all people (including US citizens). All this gives a bad name for H1Bs and the greencard process. Anti immigrants use it against us in their campaign.