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logiclife12-31 07:19 PMUS news has covered a book by David Heenan -- "Flight Capital" that essentially deals with the fact that high powered immigrants are leaving this country -- for whatever reason -- and how its bad for America. BAD FOR AMERICA. forget about it being bad of GC aspirants. ITS BAD FOR AMERICA. And we have one of america's own high powered former CEO saying that

This man has no vested interested in talking about this. Obviously he does not need a GC and he is not on H1. He makes our case. How anti-immigration congressional measure are hurting America as a nation as much as it hurts aspiring immigrants.

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gccovet08-07 12:23 PMGood for you..

People yet another case who is going to crossover to the EB2 line...

Sunny ,
What is your PD???

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Nil03-10 08:44 PMBTW guys,

Thanks for those who think the idea has merit.
i suddenly see a red dot against my username for trying to think out of the box:
"please dont be foolish and waste everyones time with ur insane proposal? thanks"

It is OK - whoever wanted to go this length. FYI, 'have been a member of IV and a donor since inception. Is anyone from the core who thinks this idea is insane?

Like-minded folks - let us work on it
How about having a list of action items and getting an opinion from the IV core on them?

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singhv_198002-07 01:58 AMhello casinoroyal, singhv, stuckhere, bepositive..EVERYBODY..need help..

this is the email came from my lawyer today..for the inquiry they did with the consulate regarding my visa.

Hi Shweta,

We understand how frustrating this is for you. We received a response to our inquiry with the consulate. It seems the application is being kept pending for additional administrative processing. The stated reason for the review falls within the law under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Under these circumstances, we typically see that the government issues a notice to the applicant wherein additional information is often requested. Kindly advise if you have received any notification from the consulate on this issue.

Best regards,


also the same day i called DOS and they told me case was approved already in that means that now more processing needs to be done ??


I am sorry and can understand how frustrating this would be for you. But you keep your spirits high. Can you ask your lawyer to contact DOS himself and inquire about your case? Once he has some information, he can communicate with the consulate here in India directly. I am not sure if you can do much here. I am wondering if there is anyway for you to contact VO instead of VFS ppl.

But importantly dont get discouraged, you will sail through.


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kalyan01-06 09:28 AMI think we should write letter and incorporate such things in our DC campaign.

I am tentattive to the DC campaign. But we should come out with a document or website and have our guys officially sign it and send it to all the parties involved in making such decision.

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skrishna2308-12 06:53 PMFinally got the CPO emails/texts today morning for both me and my wife.

Came to USA in 1996 on H1. Masters (F1) from 1999-2000.
All GC applications in EB2. Nationality : India.
Applied in Mid 2001 : company (think $15B!!!) went kaput.
Applied in Mid 2003 : I quit in mid-2005 - while labor pending.
Applied Nov 22, 2005 : Approved Aug 11, 2010.

Labor applied via PERM - approved in about 4 months.
I-140 applied soon after - approved in about 4 months.
I-485 applied during the July-August 2007.
Receipt Date: Aug 16, 2007
Notice Date: Oct 1, 2007

Quit in mid-2008 with 485/EAD, sent AC21.
Got RFE in Sep 2008 (missed the 2008 boat).
485 LUD stuck at 10/29/2008 forever until today.

Opened a SR on Aug 5th.
Took an infopass on Aug 6th - all I could get was, "your application is with an
Immigration Officer since Aug 2nd". Nothing else!
Don't know if either had an effect.
Didn't do anything beyond the above two.

I think anything that's helpful for anyone based on dates/apps/process/procedures are all listed above. Now for a bit of something in my mind. No particular theme but general rambling....if you so indulge..please continue. Else Have a good day and happy life. And thanks IV.

It has been a long journey for sure. A lot of my friends who came to
USA in 1996 are now citizens. I have NO regrets at all. I took my own
path. Sometimes I used to think that if I had done the GC process
in 1998/1999 instead of quitting my full time job to do full time masters,
I might've gotten GC sooner. OR what if I had stuck with the 2003 application,
sure, it would've taken longer to get even the Labor cleared but I would
have gotten GC in probably 2007 - and worst case 2008. And heck, I would
have made an additional $150K (since the company got acquired by "as big
as it gets" tech company). OR what if I had chosen a very safe choice out
of masters [believe it or not, I got 12 offers back in 2000 - but then heck,
every body else got 12 offers as well]. OH btw, the full time masters ended
up costing me about $45K in credit card loans. So point in contemplating
all the "coulda woulda shoulda"s in life.

As Nike says: Just do it.

I strongly believe it was because of the masters that I got the first 2000/2001 company, I got into the next job - and because of it to the next one and because
of that to the current one - where I am extremely happy and think
will over time come out very well off too.

At all times, I never compromised on my job. Took the job which offered
me the most challenge and allowed me to learn as much as possible while
working the smartest folks around. That I think was a great benefit - all
along - since that component of life (work) never bothered me. And was never
afraid of taking (apparent) risks either. To me they were calculated risks.
The 2002 company I joined, it was a small startup - I was employee number 20-something and was the only H1-B until we had about 150+ employees.
When I quit it was 450+ folks and was about 750+ when it was acquired.
The company I joined in 2008 (via AC21), was and still is a startup. When
I joined we were 8 employees and still now, remain lean-and-mean but
kicking some serious ass. (if I say so myself..pardon me). :)

The biggest hiccup as I think of it now was that my wife was not able
to work from 2003-2007. But the EAD in mid-2007 finally solved that
problem. Oh, I never hesitated traveling either : travel to Africa (three
countries) one year, and to Europe (three countries) one year and
Asia (two countries other than India) in one year.
Also purchased a home in 2009 (it was very tempting during the
2004-2006 times...but waited out for good).

So yeah...H1-B/EAD/AP are all handicaps - only if you convince yourself so.

A couple of times I had contemplated Canadian PR or really
moving there or to somewhere in Europe (and even Aus PR).
But pursued nothing mostly because I was lazy.

But all along my wife fully supported in everything I (we) did.
Be it change of jobs, other big decisions..what not.
So thankful to god for that.

Just a bit to go back in the way back machine.
Long ago, labor was the bottle-neck. Then 485, then something else.
Things repeat - old is new, new is old...repeat.
There were times when there was no online checking, no sms, no email notifications.
Six year h1-cap was strongly enforced. no concurrent 140/485. No one year extension of h1. No 3 year extenstions of h1 after 140. No 2 year EADs. No AC21. No priority date porting. I can go on....but a lot of stuff happened...happens.

If there is one thing I learned wrt immigration, it is do things ASAP. Never postpone anything at all. As much as possible get first in the queue.

A general piece of advice: Never reject an option you don't have. [this is more to do with folks who say, "I am only in year 1 in h1..I don't know if I need gc..let me see after 2-3 years.." - guess what einstein, it is easy to give up your gc after you get it, then to get it when you desperately need it.]

Good luck and all the best to those who are waiting.
EB2-IC seems in pretty good shape as far as I can tell.
EB3-folks need some serious legislative help - please consider contributing a fraction of what you send for your immigration-lawyers and get something done. support IV.

And finally: Be Happy!



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amitjoey07-11 01:50 PMWrote an email to NPR (National Public Radio).

I also wrote to John Stossle 20 / 20 for a coverage (Skilled immigration) but haven't had any reply.

That would be awesome if NPR covers it. Thanks Karthik

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guyfromsg07-13 12:17 PMOn the other day Congressman Tom Tancredo was in Lou Dobbs program and they as usual ranted about H1-B visas. I almost fell from the chair when Tom T said H1B visa is valid for 5 years and there are around 700,000 people overstaying their visas. He clearly implied the thousands of people from all over the world staying here legally as illegals.

Here is the youtube link

Since Lou Dobbs didn't challenge Tom I'm sure he agrees with him. I wish somone create a video explaining how H1 can be extended beyond six years, interview some USCIS ( even ex employee), immigration lawyers and put a fitting response to this video in Youtube itself.

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rockstart06-10 01:25 PMI think this is a good initiative. If we see visa violations being done we need to report it. The reporting has nothing to do with India Indians or Indian companies. I am sure Cognizant IBM CapGemini are as good or bad as TCS Wipro or Infy. Plus people opposing this should realize that these same L1 are applying under EB1 category by utilizing the loophole and this is one of the bottleneck for people like us who are playing by rules. They are also violating wages standards and pulling the market down. So I do not see any reason to discourage people from reporting against malpractices in H1 L1 J1 or B1 visa.


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logiclife01-04 10:23 AMBecause even with this detailed information on the mechanics of immigration legislation, we cannot figure out who is friendly and who is not and who to lobby to and who to ignore.

This kind of complicated stuff is not a typical IT programmers domain.

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newtoearth06-16 02:38 PMI thought IV works and fights for whole immigrant family..
But most often I see Hatred on L1, (And Indian Consultants, and Substitution Labors EB1)...
Are we jealous on every body else except "ME"????
One lost job because of the company's new outsource policy, and economy...not because of L1...Please realize that

We will never win this kind of game...For sure every body will loose..


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dilipcr06-12 08:07 PMGanguteli, why do you keep on questioning everybody's intentions all the time. the other day, I had posted about L1 exploiting the loop to file GC in EB1 and your answer was plainly stupid and irritating - "I would have done the same thing if I had a chance"....

There is nothing wrong in exposing any kind of visa fraud...I came here on F1 10 years back and still in line for GC after getting masters from a decent school and working with major employers. What is wrong in making sure that it is FIFO....

It is not just Gantuteli doing this. Almost every other poster on this board seems to be doing the same. Any opinion expressed against the visa fraud perpetrated by these outsourcing cos is met with derision, ridicule and contempt. Of course, the poster is immediately labelled as an anti immigrant or a tunnel rat.

Why do the posters have to resort to ad hominem arguments ? Why dont posters consider the merits/demerits of an argument and then provide civil responses ? In my opinion even if anti immigration activitists, barring the racists, post arguments or views, those views need to be considered on due merits. Many people across a borad spectrum, including current H1B holders, GC and naturalized citizens, believe that these outsourcing cos are abusing the L1 visa and are contributing to the unemployment of high skilled labor. Is it anti immigration to raise our voices against such corrupt practices that impact our standard of living ?

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sledge_hammer06-23 05:08 PMHi,

My company's attorney filed for my PERM and I-140. After I-140 approval the attorney kept the original I-140 and sent me the courtesy copy of the approval. I am now going to file for my I-485 on my own.

My question is -

Can I make a photocopy of the courtesy copy of this I-140 approval and use it to file my I-485?

P.S: Courtesy copy is NOT the photocopy of the original I-140. It is a copy that USCIS sends in addition to the orinial approval.


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pappu09-09 12:10 PMPlease post on other sites and your blogs so that we have more participation

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anilsal01-25 09:37 AMIt was on Dec 2005 . Luftansa . Chennai - Frankfurt- Dallas . I was waiting for my boarding pass . I handed over my e ticket to the lady at the counter. Instead of issuing the boarding pass , she asked me about my H1B papers. I got confused . Why should I show my papers to this lady ? . Since it was my very first trip to US , I meekly showed her my papers.After that she had issued the boarding pass.

Friends, you may think I am very meek.This was not my first overseas trip. I had visited Japan previously. I didn't want to have fight with her and start my journey in bitter taste from the beginning.

Don't think only Non-Indians treat Indians shabbily. Our enemy is within.

If I happened to see that lady once again in Chennai -------

the airlines want to make sure that you have h1b stamp on ur passport. They always do.

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pappu08-07 04:02 PMLet's file a lawsuit against whoever started this system..LOL

On a more serious note, Can I port my red dots to green ones after i have been in reds for like a month? I won't be surprised if someone actually starts a thread with this kinda issue here.


Yes you can port it using AC21. IV will need to issue a new memo for it though. But your designation should be same. If you are a junior member, you need to post only as a junior member on IV forums.

Its your choice.

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nocomment09-23 09:29 PMAny guesses on number of approvals so far this month? has about 450 which i think is only a fraction of actual number

seekerofpeace10-05 08:28 PMFolks,
Today at 2:03 PM EST I received the coveted CPO mail for my wife. I was approved on Sept 3rd and was the primary and I have not yet received the CPO as there is Biometrics issue, my wife had the same issue but the vagaries of USCIS which is worse than Indian monsoon...

I wish Caliguy, Fatjoe, Apb and many others who are at or older than my PD get their approval soon. If I can be of assistance in any way to you guys please let me know....My wife her case was separated from me and I was worried that it fell thru the cracks..but my persistence with all the channels especially congressional and POJ I guessed did it.

Not that you guys are leaving any stone unturned but just keep trying...

She was at initial review stage till Oct 2nd and not preadjudicated and separated from primary case and bingo on 5th she jumped to CPO...

You really never know...

Take care and I'll still be visiting IV and commenting and helping out..


cbpds08-27 08:31 PMI think Vonage will offer this free International calling for few months till it meets its target of new subscribers and then start charging per minute later on or in an indirect manner.
Once the new charges come into force the happy subscribers will not be able to cancel the service immediately due to cancellation charges and moreover since all other providers will be more of the same, Vonage wud then retain most of the customers

what say thou?

Remember you are talking about INDIA which is not US. you need broadband connection and Electricity for VOIP and you know the availability and reliability of both in INDIA.


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