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lacrossegc07-11 05:20 PMI guess DOS/DHS won't provide all documentation, just like recent firing of US attorney.

They didnt provide docs for the US attorney firings because Bush cited "Executive privilege" ... there is no such "privilege" in this case .... Bush hopefully had nothing to do with the DOS/USCIS screwup :)

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desi393301-12 05:03 PMWhat is the advantage of claiming trader status on your tax return? I buy / sell shares on different days of the week (example: Buy on Monday, Sell on Friday). Does that make me a day trader?

I am doing this on H1B. I do have approved EAD.

Introduction to Trader Status (

Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin

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PlainSpeak01-12 05:29 PMIt is surprising (rather shocking) to see how a discussion on an EB bill (which might never see the light of day anyway) has degenerated into an oft-repeated rant on how IV does not represent EB3.

When I meet with my lawmaker's office (and when I again meet in Feb), I repeat the IV provisions which are for ALL EB and not any specific category/country. THe problem with EB3 is the with the way the EB system/inventory is set-up. It is stupid to convert a chronic issue into a "IV is not trying" debate. As always, we have lots of armchair critics and few grass-roots workers.
Yes forever_waiting it is surprising and shocking to see how a discussion on an EB Bill which will never see the light of the day has degenerated into an oft-repeated rant

By using the keyword
oft-repeated (i will ignore the word rant because only an immature mind will call the other side of a discussion as rant) it
would imply that many EB3 members have raised the same concern in this forum before and i am not the first and believe me when i say this i will not be the last also. So that would mean a whole bunch of people (remember eb3 are 50 k and eb2 are 12k) have the same concern and they have raised the same concern in this same forum so that would mean IV is aware of the concern.

Now what has
IV done about it ??

Meeting a lawmaker with the support of IV behind you is not a reflection of a big effort on your side. The power behind that is IV. Now for me or any other EB3 to meet a law maker is not something i would consider an effort since EB3 are willing to put the same effort which you are putting only if they believein what they are doing. To believe a person needs to feel that they are working for a cause that will impact their situation. Sadly this is missing and that is why EB3 people are cool about the whole meet the law maker process

Regarding the statement I repeat the IV provisions which are for ALL EB and not any specific category/country. THe problem with EB3 is the with the way the EB system/inventory is set-up. What specific steps has IV articulated to resolve the specific issue of EB3

By your own definition this is a chronic issue and what we are taught is that any issue which is chronic needs to be redressed and when it is not it becomes a big issue which cannot be handled

As always, there is the name calling stating that EB3 people aarmchair critics and winers but you are part of a community and you have issues you will air your greviences in the same community not to some one who has no idea or does notcare about it

What is really suprising and shocking is that in EB community itself EB2 does not care to listen and provide and open discussion about EB3 issues. Now according to me that is shocking

BTW i commend your effort of meeting the law maker but if you introspect the only reason you are making an effort is because you believe your efforts will bear fruit in the form of a GC soon (I believe you are EB2 with a priority date of Apr 08)

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reddyram08-03 12:21 PMMine was TSC...Actually it was NSC, but transferred to TSC during July fiasco..

Subkamnaa & Congrats friend. My PD is earlier than urs - Oct 05 . No LUD on mine. What is the July fiasco .

My PD is already current as of now. But there is no movement on my appl - but its just few days past its current status. I am on EB2 with PD of Oct 05 and Serv Center is NE where I got Labor and 140 approved.
Now I am no longer in that state because my project got over in NE. I am working in CA since 08 and filed 485 from CA .
Is there something that if I am in CA a different state from where I initially filed labor - it can cause RFE.


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anurakt01-04 11:14 AMWelcome to our 8000th member "vatsa" ...Friends we are only 20% away from target. At least if you cannot make contribution in terms of $$$'s please at least add members and take it to the finish line....

Another suggestion is to use Orkut.... use your orkut network, join communities on Orkut which you may feel can have potential members and send a message to the whole community.

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pappu12-14 10:19 PMThank you Neelu for taking a lead on this effort. All pls help in this effort so that we can reach our membership target soon.


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sareesh05-29 01:43 PMPaper filed(used law firm) on 04/21.
Approval email on 5/12.
Physical card: 5/28(me & spouse).
Comments: my current EAD expires 08/14/10.
New EAD dates 08/14/10 to 08/15/12.


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tonyHK1209-29 11:03 AMYou are talking about bringing a bill:

How many congressman and Senators have you met till now ?

You want to bring a bill without lobbying. So tell your plans. Let us all see.

You created your new ID, started a thread and you think that is a good start. I need to see something real in an idea than believing in your idea.

Well I had called a NY congresswoman when I was stuck in a H1 name check. I found them open and willing to help. She even contacted the FBI.

Well I am just an ordinary person, and the same as everyone here, and not saying I will do everything myself. There are persons who are better skilled at this and know the immigration law better.

Also don't rule out lobbying, I just said we also need something else that should justify our case without a lobby. I'm asking for suggestions or ideas.
I may be new here, If you see my post on the other forum, I'm asking for the creation of an organization with skilled people who will create a new campaign among legal immigrants. Kind of like Grass roots movement.

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nozerd05-14 06:50 PMFor filing I 485 I know you need to submit birth certificate and marriage certificate. Do both of these have to be originals or copies are fine ?



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Ramba05-16 03:45 PMThank you rb_!

I knew ppl in this forum said the same thing as you said that GC is for a future job but unsure what my attorney will say.

Other folks - any thoughts or insights?

You can say it is a future job. But USCIS has to listen. They may refuse depending upon your employer's credibility. In either case, however, you have to move back to the state where LC was filed and stay permanantly there for a condiserable period of time upon approval of your GC. If they find you have not maintained residency in that state, they may revoke your GC. Who knows how the immigration law is going to get toughter in futre. Therfore just obey whatever your lawyer says. Do not rely on this immigration boards advise..

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satishku_200004-09 10:12 PMdohko, The point of satishku_2000's post was that all companies follow the similar business practices. It doesn't make any difference if it is TCS or IBM, Anderson or Infosys. They are all same bunch of people, just different names. So your repeated rant about "indian companies" is not valid any more. We have someone who worked for IBM for 8 years and got 2 pay checks on bench. So now, lets not squabble without any reason.

Exactly ,

No body is forcing any one to do any unethical things that applies for consultants as well as consulting companies. If any one does anything illegal they will meet the fate of Enron, Anderson or CA.

No one is forcing any one to work for a desi consulting company, If anyone does not like them they always have the option of choosing a new employer or leaving the country.

No company is going to pay for a consultant if consultant does not deliver what client wants.

Hope economy will be strong no one has to see tbe bad days of 2001 and 2002 which I have seen personally .

Just recently two american mortgage lendors have laid off people in Southern California without any consideration for immigration status. These companies have people of all kinds which include "US educated" and direct H1s and their green card applicaitons in various stages. All these people have to start all over again. I feel sorry for these guys.

All the guys thinking about H1b "reform" think twice before what you wish for.


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dummgelauft03-24 03:34 PMSpeaking for myself, I'm not seeing the value.

I see IV right now going off and tilting at windmills that will have little effect. Stuff like the I-485 without current PD for example, will serve to both alleviate the immediate issue of backlog, and make those responsible less likely to actually fix the problem, all while creating a permanent under-class of immigrants who will spend decades waiting for their permanent status.

So...when I see them advocating for things that will make a difference, I might consider contributing at that time.

Dear Sir, You are EB1C, chargeable to should have your greencard sooner than one can say Mississipi..or Schenectady..or Connecticut...or whatever.

I am not accusing you of apathy, but you may not be able to understand the anxiety, pain and frustration that a person who is an EB3 or even EB2 chargeable to India or China. People in such a situation will tend to grasp at the straws.... if not the whole bale of hay.

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snathan03-25 06:54 PMI think most on here know that IV's central goal is to clear the backlog
However there are many underlying specifics to get to this goal
and i think that's what the members on here want to hear about.
for example
Re-capture of unused visa numbers
removing country specific limits
Automatically granting visa numbers to those who have waited 5 years or more
Increasing the total number of EB visa numbers
Allowing non-current people to file I-485 and get EAD

As you can see there are many different causes and many different solutions
What is IV advocating...which cause?...which solution?

StarSun, Pappu please don't take things personally. Not all members can go to DC or visit their state representatives. I am sure IV has many other needs. If we can identify and openly publish a list of things that are needed then we can certainly increase volunteers and participation do you join the state chapter?
The answers to many of the questions asked may be obvious for you since you are heavily involved with IV...but they are not obvious to a lot.

I do understand not everyone can travel to DC....but whats stopping to meet your state represenatives in their local office...?


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By Jill Serjeant

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - U.S. Catholic bishops on Wednesday urged the U.S. Congress to resolve differences on immigration reform and seize a "historic moment" to give all of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

Meeting in Los Angeles for their bi-annual conference, the bishops said an enforcement-only approach to immigration had failed and that stronger border fences and a piecemeal approach would do nothing to deter those seeking to find work in the United States.

"Over the past 12 years, our government has spent $25 billion on enforcement of our border. During the same period, the number of undocumented in the nation has nearly doubled," said Bishop Gerald Barnes of San Bernardino, who heads the U.S. Catholic Bishops committee on immigration.

"We urge congressional leaders and the President to seize this historic moment and enact a just and humane immigration measure," Barnes told a news conference.

"Either fix it, or five years from now there will be 20 million illegal immigrants here," said Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony, whose vow to disobey any laws that would criminalize illegal immigrants and those who help them has made him a leading voice in the national debate.

Lawmakers are struggling to reconcile a bill in the House of Representatives that focuses strictly on border enforcement with a Senate bill that would also create a temporary work program denounced by many conservatives as equivalent to an amnesty for illegal immigrants.

The bishops said all undocumented workers currently in the United States should be given a "viable and workable earned path to citizenship," not just those who have been here longest.

They also backed a temporary worker program and reforms that would reduce family immigration backlogs. Continued...

And now the church is taking this up?? I guess the illegals are not only potential vote-bank, but conversion candidates too.

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ngopalak06-29 01:03 PMYou have a nice attorney
Here is what my attorney has sent regarding the AILA release, i dont know whether to believe him or other attorneys, i think i have no choice but to go with what my attorney says.He has been really good in these kinds ofnotices for the past 3 plus years, hope he is correct even with this.

1)There is no way that USCIS would get away with shutting down filing of EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 Adjustment filings without a massive class action lawsuit against the agency;
2)The power to determine the availability or non-availability of permanent residence visa numbers rests solely with the Department of State. USCIS rejected the �Other Worker� Adjustments based upon a notice from the Department of State that there were no longer any visa numbers for the category. I recently attended our annual AILA immigration conference and there were members in attendance who had interviewed the Department of State official who sets the priority dates. The understanding was unequivocal that the Department of State office felt the numbers would remain available throughout July, and perhaps, as late as September;
3)At this time, there are 40,000 immigrant visa numbers available for the rest of the fiscal year. This means that in order for the Department of State to issue any kind of notice to USCIS, 40,000 permanent residence petitions would have to be APPROVED prior to the end of July. I am highlighting the word approved, because I need for all of my clients to understand that between June and July, there will a lot more than 40,000 Adjustments filed. However, what determines an immigrant visa number usage is the approval of a permanent residence.

Now let�s go back to simple math: there are 140,000 immigrant visas available per fiscal year. 40,000 visa numbers are available at this time. The fiscal year runs from October 1st through September 30th. That means that in the first 9 months of the fiscal year, the Department of State and USCIS have managed to approve 100,000, which turns out to be 11,111 petitions per month. There is no possible way that USCIS and the Department of State are going to approve almost 4 times the number of permanent residencies in the month of July. The agencies do not have the time, nor do they have the manpower to approve 40,000 petitions within the next 30 days or so. That is the very reason why the Department of State official solely responsible for the priority dates felt pretty good about the availability of visa numbers throughout the month of July when he spoke to my colleagues from AILA.

To be honest with all of you, I was really disappointed in the message from AILA. In the rush to �inform,� they forgot to pause, analyze and really discuss the true possibility that USCIS would be directed by the Department of State to halt receipt of Adjustment of Status petitions. I want my clients to know this: at this point, I am not worried that the visa numbers will not be available throughout July. If I were worried, I would let you know. My responsibility is to guide you through this process and if there is any genuine worry on my part, I will let you know IMMEDIATELY.


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looivy09-25 10:31 AMPappu, please ban this divisive guy I_Got_Skillz and his IP. He is detrimental to IV initiatives.

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SGP04-16 06:23 AM$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")

This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

Visit Immigration Voice Wiki ( 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki ( - for overview of this initiative

As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

Then please send an email to (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

I485 Filing Initiative Flier (

3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (

PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group:

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gc2826203-19 04:01 PMAll,

I have been trying to enquire about the status of my passport application. I tried all different tel numbers listed on the website. Nobody picks up !

Did anyone call CGI-Houston recently ?
If so please provide the number. Thanks !


GCAmigo02-02 09:54 AMMiscommunication happens. I completely understand.
FYI, all, I just called Senator Kerry's office and he said what ever is there in is true and it is passed according to him. Go figure.
what does that mean?

gc_kaavaali08-04 06:30 PMI received EAD card today. I e-filed on May 8th. Somehow i got 2 years validity eventhough my PD is current. But no worries i have atleast EAD to work on. All the best who are still waiting!!!


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